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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:40 pm 
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Hello Friends, I am here with you, do not want to end this nightmare, the earth trembles constantly, thankfully I'm away, the distance from the epicenter is about 100 kilometers from my house.

I understand the feelings of those people who are on the road.

I hope it will pass. Must pass.

Now I want to talk about motorcycles!

Hello Steve, I believe that you need my brake bracket chuck TT2, I think you can put in that space that remains between the swingarm and rear wheel hub.

I now better analyze your message, I need to better understand the simultaneous translator.

Trust.

Thank you all for your interest in my family and myself. Ciao


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:32 am 
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Caro Carlo,
thankfully you & your family are OK! I remember L'aquila only too well. Near my relatives....
So, hopefully all has passed.

Carlo, this is the TT2 rear caliper support I purchased from you below...
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It looks as if I do need to cut the Pantah spacer off the rear rim. But, before I do, I will heed Graeme's advice and information AND swap the empty carton of Boags for a full slab of Cascade Draught! Graeme, when is your flight due in? Graeme, the internal measurement is exactly the same as a Pantah swingarm +/- some mm from the tape measure.

After discussions with a mate at work, he suggested I first confirm the straightness between the front wheel to the rear wheel (as informed), then the engine sprocket to the rear sprocket, then check/measure the spacer difference.
Gosh, doing this and the blasted retaining wall only on weekends is thirsty work!

Gentlemen, thank you for your continued encouragement and advice. I do appreciate it. It's nice to see a new baby growing up....

Cheers,
Steve

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:37 am 
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:?: Gents,
as best as I can photograph.... The front wheel is slightly skewed because of the workbench chock.
I heed the advice to use bare rims only. Gosh, I hope they're straight...... :o
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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:34 am 
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Steve, if you can, now is a good time to take your TT to a good frame engineer to make sure it's straight.
He will need the engine cases bolted in, the swing arm and back wheel in, the foot pegs, front end and wheel (not necessarily fitted).
They can measure and adjust the frame if needed easily in their frame jig.
It'll probably cost a couple or few hundred dollars but your TT will be straight. And best to do it before its painted.

You can measure yourself but it's not so easy or accurate without a proper jig, and if you do find its slightly out from welding they can straighten it.

Graeme

PS, and you can leave the tyres on, if they are already on


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:21 am 
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Oh no - there goes the beer budget. Is the stone wall starting to look like more fun now?

Seriously, +1 on Graeme's suggestion. A good shop can check/set the wheel alignment and positioning dead nuts and also the sprockets if they're both on.
Bill


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:44 pm 
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I think it's the right solution, the best advice from our friends!

If you see that I have I can not understand the problem, you must tell me, and try to explain it more simply.

it is nice to be with you.

CIAO


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:45 am 
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:( Gents,
thank you for your advice. I have taken everything onboard.
Only, the retaining walls were looking easier simply because I'm almost done!!!!!!!!!

So, the bike has been placed on hold for now. I will look for a motorcycle straightener/jig setter. But, I must say the frame is straight enough for the engine cases to be bolted up without any need for frame bending/stretching/tweaking or bashing with a hammer.

So, I'll use my bare rims to check wheel alignment and check the chain run when the front to rear rims are aligned.

I'm off the dig the trench now.....Ciao!

Steve

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:18 am 
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;) Gents,
we are back on! Have been very busy knocking up retaining walls and backfilling with dirt. So much dirt and wheelbarrow loads! It's been raining here in Melbourne a little, which makes working in mud challenging.
So, I have made up some templates for the front fork angle & rear swing-arm droop as per Graeme's specs of 24 deg front & 12 deg rear.

But, I need a spanner man to assist with this setting up of angles! Lift this, lower that, move this, push that...Grazie a dio there's no pulling!!!! This is going to take me all day!

I have contacted a local shock supplier, are there any questions I should include in my query apart from center to center length, spring rate and end fitting details? I'm looking into Wilbers.

Keeping you looped....
Ciao,
Steve

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:27 am 
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If you need some degree, I have a frame and swingarm, otherwise I can measure my tt2.

My non-simultaneous translator snatches all the nuances and all the technical details of your conversations.

I am at your disposal.

You shoveled the mud? You have had the floods? Everything ok?

Ciao Carlo Leoncini.


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie TT2 track bike build
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:40 am 
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;) Grazie Carlo mio amico!
no, I'm not shovelling mud. I'm working in it! It's been raining here in Melbourne quite a lot.

Ok, we did some measuring today and setting up of angles as per Graeme's knowledge.
It took a bit of time to get it all sorted, but this is what I have....

The overall picture;
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Regarding dimensions & angles & if Carlo could confirm for me please..... ;)
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This dimension is from the lower fork brace to the "ground" (ie: the workbench) Using the stock Marzzochi Pantah forks, these are extending through the top fork brace by some 50mm!!!! Wow. At 24 degs.

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This dimension is from the lower fork brace to the front wheel axle C/L.

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This dimension is from the swingarm pivot to the "ground" (ie; the workbench). Rear swingarm droop angle is at 12 deg.

Could anybody confirm these dimensions for me please? It gives me an overall rear shock centre to centre eye distance of 325.0mm
Now, that I have this dimension, I will be making sure the front wheel is aligned to the rear and sort out my rear brake calliper mount setup.
Wish me luck!!!!!

Steve

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