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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:33 pm 
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Bill, the plan is to keep it as a race/track bike.
I will try and keep it to it's orignal form.
First step get it home, see if I can get it to run, then go from there!
Hopefully I can get it home before the snow flies!

Paul


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:03 pm 
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You must not live in my neighborhood (southern Vt) because you'd already be too late. Best wishes with your new bike!
Bill


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:56 pm 
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Hello Guys, I have no knowledge of U.S. Championships, I rely solely on what I see.

I wanted to say my opinion with great humility.

I see a frame of a ducati f1, which was cut the piece of frame that holds the muffler or exhaust any right.

You can see where it was cut from the irregularities of the weld.

As rightly said lou, you see the accommodation for the main stand.

The cross bar at the center of the frame, it seems to me to see a weld made ​​with gas cylinders and oxygen, and not with the welding wire as they were welded frames f1.

I hope that my translation is excellent.
The bike in question has many luxury details
I apologize for any nonsense.

Hello guy Carlo Leoncini


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:40 pm 
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Carlo,
You have a keen eye to see all the details, as I have not yet seen the bike in person I can not tell you if there is a sign of gas welding.
I will look and see once the bike arrives at my house.
It will be a good project to clean up and refstore it to it's former glory!
Thank you!
Paul


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:40 pm 
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I have received a few more images today.
This one is interetsing as I have nver seen or heard of an ignition set-up like this.
Lfet hanger braket is still on the frame for an exhaust mount, as two pipes a really long on and a shorty, heads are externally oiled as well.
I can't wait to get my hands on it!
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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:29 pm 
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Hi, I think this is a Dyna ignition like Pantah_Good has on his Harris. How bout it Bill? Lou


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:03 pm 
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Ducati experimented with a similar device in the 80's.


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:57 pm 
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Pat, did it work?
I will have to wait and see if it is worth leaving on, or replace it with something newer.
Paul


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:33 pm 
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Hmmmm, now I'm thinking again that there may be some past connection in our bikes history's, with them having a very similar method of ignition pick-up, an appreciation of things Harris, AFM racing, quick release mk-1 calipers, etc. I think I'll forward the picture of your bike to Art to see if he recognizes it, you never know. When he was racing my bike (he said in an old email to me) "it was maintained by Para O'Soiocian, an Irish ex-pat, with a PhD in nuclear physics, who also worked for Mert Lawill. Very little was done to the bike other than to maintain it, keep tires on it, and make sure that it ran the best that it could." So, I'm not sure at what point the ignition pick-up was put on. I do know it's been bullet proof, except for one time I'll never forget. At Willow Springs Robbie was way out front in BOT3 and pressuring Mark Hatten on a 749 who was leading BOT1, when the pick-up started coming loose and the engine started running pretty rough. Robbie pulled off and ended up DNFing, much to everyone's disappointment. I remember the p.a. announcer was going nuts describing the race. Needless to say when we got home, I pinned and safety wired all those parts. Never hick-upped since. It does however block the normal oil filler port, at least on the NCR clutch. I used to use the port where the charging system wires would have come out on the l/h case. But then I put the charging system on for endurance racing, so the only place left I know of is to pull off the breather hose and slowly add it down that fitting. The components on yours look a little different than mine, not sure if they are Dyna. I would leave it on if it works o.k., just make sure things won't vibrate loose. Not sure I'd trust that gorilla snot that appears to be on it. Please post lots more photos when you get it.
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 Post subject: Re: 1986 F1 garage find
PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:20 pm 
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Hello everyone, sorry if I intrude, I seem to have understood, that the starting of the engine electronics, located on the pulleys, are not very reliable.

In my humble opinion, the plate of pik up, plus it is small, and it is more difficult is to do the engine timing.

I'll show you three pictures.

in the photo you can see the engine block of Tony Rutter.

Look at the starting of the engine electronics, as it has been worked.

Surely, it must be said that the system is very uncomfortable to act on the timing of the engine.

But when the engine timing has been made, I think, that it may be much more accurate, because the pot of pic up is much larger.

I do not want to teach anybody anything, I just want to chat with my friends.

Too bad, that you are too far away!! I learned the way to come to find you, so you are attention, I might arrive unexpectedly!

I see the face of Lou, who is reading my message, and do not stop laughing! :lol:

Hello Pat, these are photographs of an Italian newspaper, in your opinion are reliable?
For me, your opinion is very important.

Of course, they are important, all the opinions.

Sorry for my English dog. Ciao dalla toscana Carlo Leoncini.


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